- Paul

If you want to read more about the toolkit, I have a paper that I wrote available here. It gives you more than enough to get started.

When you start to wish the “gran” abstractions did something the new and more interesting, the “grain” objects are there for you to design your own effects. I hope that helps.

–Nathan

I’ve just downloaded the kit but am having trouble getting started..

Thanks

I’ve been looking and looking for a granular effect for live performance similar to Reaktors Grain Delay..

Does the toolkit provide externals to do this and if so, do you know of any completed example patches out there that use them to look at further?

Thanks.

thank you very much for your advance pinpoint advices that i really appreciate again.
i will try to make myself due to your following helps.
i really wanna be tough about max/msp programming from you one day if i have a chance.

could please i ask you again if i face a issue of any music concern.
if so, that would be so much help.

manabu shimada from london

I do not claim to know the specifics of Takamasa’s setup, but it some things sure sound granular. But if I were to attempt to build something that would make similar throbbing sounds, I would start with the [grain.pulse~] object that is part of this GTK package. You can easily chain multiple instances together to make it polyphonic.

To drive it with specific cyclical rhythms, I would use another patch that is available as part of the MPG carepackage called [riddumbank]. I’ll be presenting on this package again at the upcoming SEAMUS conference, so I will actually be cleaning up this download in the next few weeks. The abstraction patch outputs pulse control signals based on the patterns you input to the step sequencer-like interface. It has a few other nice feature as well, if I do say so myself.

The last bit would be making modulators to slowly alter the various granular control parameters (particularly the sample offset) in interesting ways. For this, I would point you to Gregory Taylor’s LFO tutorials on the Cycling74 web site.

So, it’s not a patch but more of a roadmap. These three things working together should get you in the ballpark. Whatever tweaks you make along the way will be what distinguishes your sound from Takamasa. I hope that helps!
–Nathan

so, what i want to do with granular effect is to attempt to create the particular synth by aoki takamasa.
im just wondering how aoki takamasa can create his synth and manage sounds controlling, see the movie; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9QcyiwdXQw

what i have to have several questions,

1, what kind of synth is he using? such as am synth, fm synth, granular synth so on?
2, how can synth pulse sounds (you can listen to them at the beginning of the youtube) be managed? it’s like pulse sound generated by step-sequencer or by LFO or any other ways?
3, please tell me all of the info about his sound technically if you are a max genius.

I read the article about him on some magazine that his performance actually played by max/msp.
he created his own synth, sampler, effect by max for performance act.

i have been trying to create also mine for 2 months.
i actually face with an issue of polyfm how to create.

it would be great helpful if you give me an example patch about like-aoki’s patch and any good polyphony synth.

thanks for taking your time.

Frequency and length are independent controls in the [gran.cloud.*] abstractions. If you wanted to produce your own patch for this, you could easily unlock the patch and look at the way it is constructed.

You could also take advantage of the “pulse overflow” outlet on the [grain.pulse~] external. It will pass on the control signal if the external is busy producing a grain. With it you can easily produce something like this:


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Hope that gives you some direction. Take care.
–Nathan